Comments on: “NSA Has Massive Database of Americans’ Phone Calls” http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2006/05/nsa-has-massive-database-of-americans-phone-calls.html The Emergent Chaos Jazz Combo Wed, 01 Feb 2012 19:20:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Chris Walsh http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2006/05/nsa-has-massive-database-of-americans-phone-calls.html/comment-page-1#comment-2161 Chris Walsh Thu, 11 May 2006 23:03:14 +0000 http://emergentchaos.com/?p=1698#comment-2161 Interestingly enough, this escapade may expose AT&T, et. al., to literally billions in criminal liability [http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/11/telcos-liable/]. Interestingly enough, this escapade may expose AT&T, et. al., to literally billions in criminal liability [http://thinkprogress.org/2006/05/11/telcos-liable/].

]]> By: Adam http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2006/05/nsa-has-massive-database-of-americans-phone-calls.html/comment-page-1#comment-2160 Adam Thu, 11 May 2006 15:11:58 +0000 http://emergentchaos.com/?p=1698#comment-2160 David, I note that the AG said "programS" and you said "other shoe." I have every reason to believe that the stream of revelations will continue until the apocalypse, or long into the next administrations, whichever comes first. David,
I note that the AG said “programS” and you said “other shoe.” I have every reason to believe that the stream of revelations will continue until the apocalypse, or long into the next administrations, whichever comes first.

]]> By: David Brodbeck http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2006/05/nsa-has-massive-database-of-americans-phone-calls.html/comment-page-1#comment-2159 David Brodbeck Thu, 11 May 2006 14:41:22 +0000 http://emergentchaos.com/?p=1698#comment-2159 Ever since the Attorney General hinted at "other programs" in Senate hearings, I've been waiting for the other shoe to drop. This, it would seem, is it. Ever since the Attorney General hinted at “other programs” in Senate hearings, I’ve been waiting for the other shoe to drop. This, it would seem, is it.

]]> By: Chris Walsh http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2006/05/nsa-has-massive-database-of-americans-phone-calls.html/comment-page-1#comment-2158 Chris Walsh Thu, 11 May 2006 12:56:38 +0000 http://emergentchaos.com/?p=1698#comment-2158 I used to make fun of the McNews from USA Today. No more. <blockquote> Trying to put pressure on Qwest, NSA representatives pointedly told Qwest that it was the lone holdout among the big telecommunications companies. It also tried appealing to Qwest's patriotic side: In one meeting, an NSA representative suggested that Qwest's refusal to contribute to the database could compromise national security, one person recalled. In addition, the agency suggested that Qwest's foot-dragging might affect its ability to get future classified work with the government. Like other big telecommunications companies, Qwest already had classified contracts and hoped to get more. Unable to get comfortable with what NSA was proposing, Qwest's lawyers asked NSA to take its proposal to the FISA court. According to the sources, the agency refused. The NSA's explanation did little to satisfy Qwest's lawyers. "They told (Qwest) they didn't want to do that because FISA might not agree with them," one person recalled. For similar reasons, this person said, NSA rejected Qwest's suggestion of getting a letter of authorization from the U.S. attorney general's office. A second person confirmed this version of events. </blockquote> I used to make fun of the McNews from USA Today.
No more.

Trying to put pressure on Qwest, NSA representatives pointedly told Qwest that it was the lone holdout among the big telecommunications companies. It also tried appealing to Qwest’s patriotic side: In one meeting, an NSA representative suggested that Qwest’s refusal to contribute to the database could compromise national security, one person recalled.
In addition, the agency suggested that Qwest’s foot-dragging might affect its ability to get future classified work with the government. Like other big telecommunications companies, Qwest already had classified contracts and hoped to get more.
Unable to get comfortable with what NSA was proposing, Qwest’s lawyers asked NSA to take its proposal to the FISA court. According to the sources, the agency refused.
The NSA’s explanation did little to satisfy Qwest’s lawyers. “They told (Qwest) they didn’t want to do that because FISA might not agree with them,” one person recalled. For similar reasons, this person said, NSA rejected Qwest’s suggestion of getting a letter of authorization from the U.S. attorney general’s office. A second person confirmed this version of events.

]]> By: albatross http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2006/05/nsa-has-massive-database-of-americans-phone-calls.html/comment-page-1#comment-2157 albatross Thu, 11 May 2006 09:51:54 +0000 http://emergentchaos.com/?p=1698#comment-2157 Fortunately, we all know that this information will never be used except to find terrorists. At least not until the next terrorist attack. Or the next big scare about online pedophiles and child molestors under every bed. Or the next election. Fortunately, we all know that this information will never be used except to find terrorists. At least not until the next terrorist attack. Or the next big scare about online pedophiles and child molestors under every bed. Or the next election.

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