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	<title>Comments on: Carole King said it best</title>
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		<title>By: Robin Wilton</title>
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		<dc:creator>Robin Wilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 01 Dec 2006 13:31:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris - have you tried registering with garlik.com for their Data Patrol service? It won&#039;t tell you all of them, by any means, but I think I can guarantee you&#039;ll be fascinated to see some of the &#039;hits&#039; they get.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris &#8211; have you tried registering with garlik.com for their Data Patrol service? It won&#8217;t tell you all of them, by any means, but I think I can guarantee you&#8217;ll be fascinated to see some of the &#8216;hits&#8217; they get.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 18:55:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, Pete.  I meant that if you&#039;re gleeful, it&#039;d be over the fact that &lt;em&gt;just as you said&lt;/em&gt; this stuff is already out there to such a large degree that protecting it is a misallocation of resources.  I certainly don&#039;t think you&#039;re a demon, especially in the metaphorical sense of being glad that our personal info is &quot;out there&quot;.  I apologize if my remark seemed any broader than that, because it was not meant that way.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, Pete.  I meant that if you&#8217;re gleeful, it&#8217;d be over the fact that <em>just as you said</em> this stuff is already out there to such a large degree that protecting it is a misallocation of resources.  I certainly don&#8217;t think you&#8217;re a demon, especially in the metaphorical sense of being glad that our personal info is &#8220;out there&#8221;.  I apologize if my remark seemed any broader than that, because it was not meant that way.</p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
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		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 17:04:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not sure why you like to characterize me as some sort of gleeful demon.. so, to be clear, I am not saying &quot;Yessss!!!&quot; at all. It never occurred to me that the situation was otherwise, and believe it or not I don&#039;t get a whole lot of satisfaction over other people feeling worse. So I am not saying anything.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not sure why you like to characterize me as some sort of gleeful demon.. so, to be clear, I am not saying &#8220;Yessss!!!&#8221; at all. It never occurred to me that the situation was otherwise, and believe it or not I don&#8217;t get a whole lot of satisfaction over other people feeling worse. So I am not saying anything.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 10:49:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We&#039;re both right.
Congress &lt;em&gt;could&lt;/em&gt; legislatively make identity consumer-centric, is what I meant (eg., by altering the allocation of property rights to give us some variant of ownership over information about ourselves).  That&#039;s the &quot;stroke of a pen&quot;.
The status quo has staying power because such a change is quite unlikely.  The fact that smart people are betting on the status quo being maintained reinforces my belief on this issue.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;re both right.<br />
Congress <em>could</em> legislatively make identity consumer-centric, is what I meant (eg., by altering the allocation of property rights to give us some variant of ownership over information about ourselves).  That&#8217;s the &#8220;stroke of a pen&#8221;.<br />
The status quo has staying power because such a change is quite unlikely.  The fact that smart people are betting on the status quo being maintained reinforces my belief on this issue.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,
I&#039;m jetlagged and worn out, so maybe its obvious, but how can the value of these companies be wiped out with a stroke of the pen?  Both are moving to make identity consumer-centric, rather than database-centric, and I think that has staying power.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,<br />
I&#8217;m jetlagged and worn out, so maybe its obvious, but how can the value of these companies be wiped out with a stroke of the pen?  Both are moving to make identity consumer-centric, rather than database-centric, and I think that has staying power.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 08:57:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Richard:
I was a bit unclear.  I said I was led to a conclusion and a question.  My conclusion is that such legislation is not forthcoming (evidence: VCs supporting businesses due solely to the absence of such legislation).  My question is how would one go about testing the &quot;The data are already all out there&quot; claim.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Richard:<br />
I was a bit unclear.  I said I was led to a conclusion and a question.  My conclusion is that such legislation is not forthcoming (evidence: VCs supporting businesses due solely to the absence of such legislation).  My question is how would one go about testing the &#8220;The data are already all out there&#8221; claim.</p>
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		<title>By: Richard Veryard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Veryard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 05:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris, you ask whether the problem (together with the value of Cowan&#039;s investment) might be eliminated by legislation, &quot;with a stroke of the pen&quot;. But I think you have answered this question yourself by quoting Gerry Goffin and Carole King - &quot;It&#039;s Too Late Baby&quot;.
See my post on &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~rxv/so/2006/11/service-oriented-security-3.htm&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Service-Oriented Security&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris, you ask whether the problem (together with the value of Cowan&#8217;s investment) might be eliminated by legislation, &#8220;with a stroke of the pen&#8221;. But I think you have answered this question yourself by quoting Gerry Goffin and Carole King &#8211; &#8220;It&#8217;s Too Late Baby&#8221;.<br />
See my post on <a href="http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~rxv/so/2006/11/service-oriented-security-3.htm" rel="nofollow">Service-Oriented Security</a></p>
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