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		<title>By: Iang</title>
		<link>http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2007/04/how-long-to-be-identified.html/comment-page-1#comment-3516</link>
		<dc:creator>Iang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Apr 2007 05:35:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just to add to my grumpy comment of last night ... I recently lost an entire month and hundreds of euros in a similar story, and I&#039;m not out of the woods yet.
Why?  Ultimately, because Pres. Bush suspended Habeus Corpus, and various agencies, governments, and officers around the world did their bit to help him.  The requirement to assist bounced around 3 countries until it hit me.  The result was a bureacratic request for &quot;more papers&quot; that is literally intended to allow a government to avoid following the law that was imposed on them by the parliament and reinforced by the highest court.
Yoshi, you&#039;re safe for now, if you have the right papers.  The picture can be safely ignored, for now.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just to add to my grumpy comment of last night &#8230; I recently lost an entire month and hundreds of euros in a similar story, and I&#8217;m not out of the woods yet.<br />
Why?  Ultimately, because Pres. Bush suspended Habeus Corpus, and various agencies, governments, and officers around the world did their bit to help him.  The requirement to assist bounced around 3 countries until it hit me.  The result was a bureacratic request for &#8220;more papers&#8221; that is literally intended to allow a government to avoid following the law that was imposed on them by the parliament and reinforced by the highest court.<br />
Yoshi, you&#8217;re safe for now, if you have the right papers.  The picture can be safely ignored, for now.</p>
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		<title>By: Iang</title>
		<link>http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2007/04/how-long-to-be-identified.html/comment-page-1#comment-3515</link>
		<dc:creator>Iang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2007 19:14:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am glad that Americans and Canadians are experiencing hell.  The rest of the world has had to suffer these things, because the US Govt. forced it on an unwilling world.  The only way to show the cost, it seems, is to make US voters suffer.  I&#039;m all for it, how can we do more?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am glad that Americans and Canadians are experiencing hell.  The rest of the world has had to suffer these things, because the US Govt. forced it on an unwilling world.  The only way to show the cost, it seems, is to make US voters suffer.  I&#8217;m all for it, how can we do more?</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
		<link>http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2007/04/how-long-to-be-identified.html/comment-page-1#comment-3514</link>
		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 14:45:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Chris,
Something like 85% of the population of Canada lives within 50 miles of a border with the US.  Since Canadians have long been able to visit with less paper, it seems rational that a lot of Canadians will want a passport to preserve their ability to travel.  All?  Clearly not.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Chris,<br />
Something like 85% of the population of Canada lives within 50 miles of a border with the US.  Since Canadians have long been able to visit with less paper, it seems rational that a lot of Canadians will want a passport to preserve their ability to travel.  All?  Clearly not.</p>
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		<title>By: PassportHolder</title>
		<link>http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2007/04/how-long-to-be-identified.html/comment-page-1#comment-3513</link>
		<dc:creator>PassportHolder</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 13:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I recently renewed mine at the local post office.  Granted, you have to be in the US to do this.  The entire process was maybe 30 minutes and I had a passport in 2 weeks.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I recently renewed mine at the local post office.  Granted, you have to be in the US to do this.  The entire process was maybe 30 minutes and I had a passport in 2 weeks.</p>
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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2007/04/how-long-to-be-identified.html/comment-page-1#comment-3512</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2007 11:45:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I renewed mine several months ago by mail.  No hassles at all. Plus, no RFID.  That was a very nice surprise.  How come you had to do it in person?
Your math on the cost to the people of Canada is questionable.  It is doubtful that every Canadian will have a foreseeable need/desire to visit the U.S.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I renewed mine several months ago by mail.  No hassles at all. Plus, no RFID.  That was a very nice surprise.  How come you had to do it in person?<br />
Your math on the cost to the people of Canada is questionable.  It is doubtful that every Canadian will have a foreseeable need/desire to visit the U.S.</p>
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		<title>By: Wes Injerd</title>
		<link>http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2007/04/how-long-to-be-identified.html/comment-page-1#comment-3511</link>
		<dc:creator>Wes Injerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 22:28:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let&#039;s study some background history, folks -- there&#039;s way lot more to the whole issue than you think you know.
&lt;a href=&quot;http://home.comcast.net/~eo9066/Intro.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://home.comcast.net/~eo9066/Intro.html&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s study some background history, folks &#8212; there&#8217;s way lot more to the whole issue than you think you know.<br />
<a href="http://home.comcast.net/~eo9066/Intro.html" rel="nofollow">http://home.comcast.net/~eo9066/Intro.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: yoshi</title>
		<link>http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2007/04/how-long-to-be-identified.html/comment-page-1#comment-3510</link>
		<dc:creator>yoshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This isn&#039;t the census - its a guy who can&#039;t plan waiting for a passport to travel outside the country.  And while I agree in principle on the issue of the dangers of collecting and exchanging (frequently wrong) data - that wasn&#039;t your point.  You cited the cost of the program not the collection of the data.
Using a picture of japanese american&#039;s being interned with this particular story is insensitive bordering on stupid.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This isn&#8217;t the census &#8211; its a guy who can&#8217;t plan waiting for a passport to travel outside the country.  And while I agree in principle on the issue of the dangers of collecting and exchanging (frequently wrong) data &#8211; that wasn&#8217;t your point.  You cited the cost of the program not the collection of the data.<br />
Using a picture of japanese american&#8217;s being interned with this particular story is insensitive bordering on stupid.</p>
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		<title>By: Adam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Adam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:11:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yoshi,
The rounding up of Japanese citizens was done with data collected for the Census, and its use was illegal.   As governments around the world are collecting, storing, and distributing more and more data, some of it will be used against those from whom it&#039;s collected.
I actually didn&#039;t set out to find such an image.  It came up on a search for &quot;standing in line,&quot; and I decided to use it.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yoshi,<br />
The rounding up of Japanese citizens was done with data collected for the Census, and its use was illegal.   As governments around the world are collecting, storing, and distributing more and more data, some of it will be used against those from whom it&#8217;s collected.<br />
I actually didn&#8217;t set out to find such an image.  It came up on a search for &#8220;standing in line,&#8221; and I decided to use it.</p>
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		<title>By: yoshi</title>
		<link>http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2007/04/how-long-to-be-identified.html/comment-page-1#comment-3508</link>
		<dc:creator>yoshi</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 20:06:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How does waiting in line to update a passport to travel outside the country that would be needed anyways remotely related in any way to forcing Japanese Americans into internment camps during WWII?
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How does waiting in line to update a passport to travel outside the country that would be needed anyways remotely related in any way to forcing Japanese Americans into internment camps during WWII?</p>
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		<title>By: "G. Washington"</title>
		<link>http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2007/04/how-long-to-be-identified.html/comment-page-1#comment-3507</link>
		<dc:creator>"G. Washington"</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Apr 2007 18:17:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who wants to go to the USA these days?   Not me!
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who wants to go to the USA these days?   Not me!</p>
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