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	<title>Comments on: Trespass and Forgiveness</title>
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		<title>By: Richard Johnson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Richard Johnson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 13:58:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s sad to see the insanity spread like that about access to open wireless networks being somehow &#039;forbidden&#039;.
I originally wrote this essay in 2002, after a special agent called the mistaken idea to my attention:
&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.river.com/users/rdump/community-wireless/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.river.com/users/rdump/community-wireless/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.river.com/users/rdump/community-wireless/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/a&gt;
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s sad to see the insanity spread like that about access to open wireless networks being somehow &#8216;forbidden&#8217;.<br />
I originally wrote this essay in 2002, after a special agent called the mistaken idea to my attention:<br />
<a href="http://www.river.com/users/rdump/community-wireless/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.river.com/users/rdump/community-wireless/" rel="nofollow">http://www.river.com/users/rdump/community-wireless/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Iang (a Cuthbert article)</title>
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		<dc:creator>Iang (a Cuthbert article)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Aug 2007 05:51:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The problem is that the UK went overboard and made stuff in the grey area in the middle into criminal offences.  Check out the RIP act that says you must hand over your keys.  Or search on Cuthbert where someone who banged on a site that badly handling his credit card data got hit for hacking.  It&#039;s not entirely clear to me why the UK went so drastically to criminalise everything it could, but the chilling effect is quite tangible.
The wider question is why the government thinks it understands such things well enough to control them.  Once something goes criminal, it&#039;s out of our hands, and theirs, whereas if there was a civil complaint, the onus is to show actual damages.  So there&#039;s little hope of any actual experience developing either.
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The problem is that the UK went overboard and made stuff in the grey area in the middle into criminal offences.  Check out the RIP act that says you must hand over your keys.  Or search on Cuthbert where someone who banged on a site that badly handling his credit card data got hit for hacking.  It&#8217;s not entirely clear to me why the UK went so drastically to criminalise everything it could, but the chilling effect is quite tangible.<br />
The wider question is why the government thinks it understands such things well enough to control them.  Once something goes criminal, it&#8217;s out of our hands, and theirs, whereas if there was a civil complaint, the onus is to show actual damages.  So there&#8217;s little hope of any actual experience developing either.</p>
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