http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2009/02/boundary-objects-and-threat-modeling.html The Emergent Chaos Jazz Combo Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:02:09 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2009/02/boundary-objects-and-threat-modeling.html/comment-page-1#comment-5488 Adam Sat, 07 Feb 2009 14:05:22 +0000 http://emergentchaos.com/?p=3039#comment-5488 Robin, do you have a pointer? I found this page, <a href="http://e-government.bfh.ch/index.php?id=1172&no_cache=1&tx_bfhpersonalpages_p=rer2&tx_bfhpersonalpages_screen=publications&cHash=9c801397b2" rel="nofollow">http://e-government.bfh.ch/index.php?id=1172&no_cache=1&tx_bfhpersonalpages_p=rer2&tx_bfhpersonalpages_screen=publications&cHash=9c801397b2</a> and was then stymied Robin, do you have a pointer? I found this page, http://e-government.bfh.ch/index.php?id=1172&no_cache=1&tx_bfhpersonalpages_p=rer2&tx_bfhpersonalpages_screen=publications&cHash=9c801397b2 and was then stymied

]]> http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2009/02/boundary-objects-and-threat-modeling.html/comment-page-1#comment-5487 Robin Wilton Sat, 07 Feb 2009 07:10:00 +0000 http://emergentchaos.com/?p=3039#comment-5487 You might also want to look for work on boundary objects by Prof Reinhard Riedl of the Berner Fachhochschule. You might also want to look for work on boundary objects by Prof Reinhard Riedl of the Berner Fachhochschule.

]]> http://emergentchaos.com/archives/2009/02/boundary-objects-and-threat-modeling.html/comment-page-1#comment-5486 Patrick Florer Tue, 03 Feb 2009 18:25:05 +0000 http://emergentchaos.com/?p=3039#comment-5486 Dear Adam, Since I know of no other way to contact you, I am taking the liberty of using this vehicle to write to you to urge you to make a very strong statement correcting the way that people are mis-stating your blog about the cost of breaches presented in the Maine breach report. Nowhere in that post can I find the $450 per record cost that I have seen several times in the computer press, or that I just heard during a podcast dated 1/27/2009, called "The Network Security Podcast, Episode 136" from Rich Mogull and Martin McKeay. Here is the quote from your blog: "It also includes (pdf 24, printed 18) an interesting cost summary, with 243,000 accounts impacted by Hannaford having an estimated cost of $1.6MM, or about $6.50 per customer. The highest cost per person/card/account is the TJX incident at roughly $9 per card. Which is a stark contrast to the generally used $187 number from Ponnemon surveys." I have just assumed that someone missed a decimal point somewhere - please correct me if I am wrong. Kind regards, Patrick Florer Dear Adam,
Since I know of no other way to contact you, I am taking the liberty of using this vehicle to write to you to urge you to make a very strong statement correcting the way that people are mis-stating your blog about the cost of breaches presented in the Maine breach report.
Nowhere in that post can I find the $450 per record cost that I have seen several times in the computer press, or that I just heard during a podcast dated 1/27/2009, called “The Network Security Podcast, Episode 136″ from Rich Mogull and Martin McKeay.
Here is the quote from your blog:
“It also includes (pdf 24, printed 18) an interesting cost summary, with 243,000 accounts impacted by Hannaford having an estimated cost of $1.6MM, or about $6.50 per customer. The highest cost per person/card/account is the TJX incident at roughly $9 per card. Which is a stark contrast to the generally used $187 number from Ponnemon surveys.”
I have just assumed that someone missed a decimal point somewhere – please correct me if I am wrong.
Kind regards,
Patrick Florer

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